DEBATE What are your thoughts on Celebrities Defending Islam?

Your "education efforts" are what confirmed to me that you're confused and beyond help, which is not an insult but an unfortunate fact. It's nearly impossible to find common ground when people can't even agree on basic facts or reality, which is why the modern conservative strategy of warping and blurring these things is so sadly effective.

This is where I exit the conversation. Good luck to you.

 

It's being dishonest, isn't it? Why should you pretend to respect something you don't? If I disagree politically, then I'd say so. I mean I'm not saying you should go out of your way to offend anyone but if it came to it and was asked, I'd always have to be honest.

 

I haven't read it all but you're being just a tad presumptive by claiming to know something you can't. As it happens I did read quite a bit as part of my arts & history degree. But you don't need to read it all, in any case. Many of the injunctions and orders are perfrectly clear.

 

I'm an atheist, I'm right with you on the Catholics. But why do you try and deflect this way? The KKK are a nothing group. They are laughed out of anyehere thee show up. Again, completely irrelevant. If you can apparently be contemptuous of Catholics, why not of the Islamic grooming gangs?

 

Right, and I don't. They know not to come to my door.

 

It's an attack based on your obvious ignorance and the fact you didn't address anything he said. I would say it was perfectly legitimate given your childish responses.

 

No, it's ad hominem. It's not a "fact" just because you say it, you clown.

 

Yes, they 'can' be. But the Koran rarely is. That's because it makes large claims for itself - including being the direct and perfect word of God. Again, this isn't a minor thing. Such fundamental tenets have consequences.

What possible spin could you put on a man in his 50's taking the enemies women for himself to rape? Or his marrying and sexual intercourtse with a 9 year old?

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 

I said be honest about how you feel.

Seriously dude, read what I fucking say or don't respond to my comments.

 

Did I apologize gor extremism just made the point it happens all over. Even atheism.

 

No, he wouldn't be marginalized for a simple fact that he's the only politician that knows what the hell he's doing and how to achieve his goals. Had been the only one who knew what he's doing for the last 15 years.

 

You mean the dictator in Russia?

Gotta love these "real Americans" admiring a fucking dictator.

 

Wrong, I'm afraid. I get rather tired of these arguments that because Catholicism has its own problems then we should just ignore the terrorism perpetrated by Muslims. This isn't just dirty old men, this is people who want to anihilate non-believers. And that is almost exclusively an Islamic issue. As for atheism, there is no atheist doctrine. Nobody kills 'in the name of atheism' - that would be absurd.

 

ateists have killed plenty of ppl. and the war on terrore had alot of christian white supremacy....troll harder.

 

Myself, I'm a Pastafarian, a member of The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Church of the FSM for short, look it up. We can proudly say, unlike other religions, we have never started a war in God's name!

Or maybe I like spaghetti...with some wine in the sauce.

 

You seem to be either deliberately misreading what I said or not understanding me. Yes, athesists have killed plenty of people. So what? I said atheists do not have a doctrine and do not (and cannot) killin the name of a non-doctrine. The war on terror, if you recall, is a pushback against ISLAMIC terrorism. And I fail to see how it comes from 'white supremacy' - the most overused and ridiculous notion in modern society. Islam is an ideology, not a racial descriptor.

 

Troll better....you lost when you said white supremacy is an overused term. You might win your argument on stormfront.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Antifa the group composed of bitter liberal cucks (and ugly women) who use violence against conservatives, to the point that a few of their most prominent speakers have had speeches cancelled due to rioting/threats? That sounds about right. So basically, socially indoctrinated losers (aka those who "knew" Hillary was gonna win, and were convinced Trump was Hitler because the TV said so ;-) are trying to suppress freedom of speech, solely because they're too arrogant to tolerate an opposing point of view, or because what's being said pokes holes in the narrative that they've adopted as gospel. That....... pretty much sounds like fascism to me. Or maybe it's called something else when liberals do it.

As for the Islam thing, its been proven in parts of Europe that some Muslims aren't looking to integrate with "Western" values. Shit, look at Sweden, with it's first "feminist" government, which allowed open borders to "those" types of Muslims, and which subsequently lead to an increase in sexual assault/rape. Idiot liberals, in their endless journey to claim moral superiority via "tolerance", would willingly let "these" types of Muslims into the U.S. Not only that, but they'd try to "shame" anyone who pointed out what those types of Muslims like to do.

Btw, didn't a few Muslim doctors get busted for that whole female genital mutilation thing here in the U.S.? I'm sure they seemed like perfectly respectable, "normal"people too. More to the topic, most celebrities will jump on whatever social issue is trendy. For the past 2 or so years (and counting), it's been "fuck Trump", "yay BLM, yay feminism, yay trannies, yay SJW culture", "white people are evil, blacks can't be racist, yadda yadda yadda,". So as a rule of thumb, I generally dismiss anything a celebrity has to say about everything that isn't directly related to their art. If you don't, you end up listening to Madonna (who portrayed herself as a whore for the better part of the last 40 years) having the audacity to demonize Trump for using the word "pussy" once, a decade ago during a private conversation. Just my $0.02 anyway.

 

Have you noticed any 'white supremacist' opposition to Sikhs or Hindus? If not, ask yourself why that is, since they, as groups, have even less white participation than Islam. You don't argue for what you say at all, you just make ridiculous statements, backed up by nothing.

In fact, you are rather proving my point by pointing to white supremacy when, as I've just demonstrated, it's completely irrelevant. Richard Reed, the shoe bomber, was a white convert. Skin colour is irrelevant.

 

A michigan sihk place of worship was attack not too long ago. If you are so concerned about evil Islam then you should be mad at the Us govt for supporting many of their extremist groups like bin laden, isis/isil and has overthrown democratically elected govts in Iran, Iraq and is undermining the Syrian govt.