Florida College Girls in their Undies!

Our girls = WAY HOTTER!

Although did I see RBA in the backround there somewhere? Maybe he'll grab an ass this time before passing out.

 

Dammn... that's nice...!!

 

the girl has skills! sweet and solid camera loving guuurl!

 

Thanks Nyte....as I walk over his passed out self trying to find the suit for the interview!

 

Haha... Morning Shoob... do you store your suits in the champagne room? That's a recipe for disaster.

I'm sad I missed everybody's thread-party last night. I was wasted.

 

good mornin kory, wasted huh, on a monday night , damn i miss the college life

 

Morning Kory....so you drank too much? I was too sober last night....should have had a few to take the nerves off....what's the weather like today? Any drinkin' by the pool?

An edit of teaching...I taught US History for 2.5 years!

 

Welcome back everybody. Shit got hella heated up in the chamagne room yesterday. But then again, that's what a champagne room is for, right?

Kory, lemmie first say I wasn't talking about getting banned for ticking you off. I was pretty sure I was going to get banned over in the general forum by Azz over the crap I mentioned to you over AIM with the <expletive deleted> cboting. Who has since, i suppose, been banned.

(pause two seconds here for ReachBackAnd to calm himself down and not scream "what did i tell you about that <expletive deleted> his first day on the forum.")

I was pretty sure I was going to get banned also, and frankly I was highly willing to do so over standing up and beating the cyber shit out of that guy.

But, that appears to be over now, and thank god. I thought I might burst a blood vessel in my head and die yesterday.

Have no fear, I'm all better now.


Of course, leave it to Kory to articulate so well and disarm any potential conflict right here on the Phun. I swear to god, this girl is pure gold.

I don't think either of us is particularly wrong, or misguided. We're two very intelligent, highly opinionated people from unique perspectives who disagree. As much as it is against my nature to do so, sometimes even I have to accept that this is normal and natural, and that there isn't always a clear cut right answer.

Politics is obviously something we care about a great deal. It's even more of a personal thing for me, because I spent four years studying it in college. Studying it from both a systematic and philosophical standpoint left me in a fairly unique spot. There aren't exactely a lot of folks with Philosophy degrees roaming the internet, and most of us feel highly misunderstood.

Kory,

I certainly don't want to fight over the media, the president, or the phun with you. I definately don't want to wreck your day, get you fired up, or upset, or pissed off.

But I definately enjoy intellectual conversation with you, because you're one of the rare people who does it well. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and most are just damn ugly and should be kept to themself. Your's (opinion) tend to be much better thought out, and articulated than average. You'd make a good philosopher if you cared to be.

But I know that most people aren't as well practised and inured to in-depth argument and cross exaination as I am. Or as my friends are. So if I come across like I'm hounding an idea or an opinion, just tell me and I'll chill out. It's just how I've been trained. I'm an attack dog in the courtroom (woof woof) and it comes out in discussion. But I don't want to make you feel like we can't talk about this stuff, because I earnestly enjoy it.

I've said it before, and I'll gladly say it again--Kory you're a one of a kind girl. That much is pretty well clear within talking to you for more than two seconds. That's why I don't consider you a hottie internet model, I consider you a friend. I'm hoping that's still true.

 

Good morning RBA... thanks so much for all the kind words. I do consider you a real friend.

You're a smart cookie too, RBA... and I'll tell you what... the reason we probably don't agree this year is because you're still fresh out of WVU. I mean, who wouldn't hate Michael Moore if they just spent the last four years on that campus. The fact that you hate the administration already is a sparkling enough sign of your intellect and independence... I shouldn't complain. Because I bet as you settle into Carolina, and law school, you'll take part in much better party conversations, and make all smart friends, and then you'll find yourself eventually thinking things that fall a little closer to my viewpoint.

Once again, I still consider you a friend. And I also consider this thread to have passed a milestone just a minute ago:

 

Hey Shoob, who were Franklin Roosevelt's main opponents on the New Deal, and why did they oppose it?

 

Are you quizzing me? That's good Kory...that's actually a question that was on my friends final for his US HIstory AP course.....

Are you writing a paper? Do you need some help? I'm not the type of teach that just gives the answers...but I will help guide you to the answer....

In other words....modern US History is not my fortee'....I'm more the Revolution to Civil War nut job...I love that sort of stuff...especially the Civics portions...

Sorry to dissappoint...

 

Oh, well... that's okay. FDR is my favorite president ever. A book about him is on the couch next to Brooke

I bring him up, because reading that book made me feel sick in my stomach. FDR had to contradict the interests of the wealthy, and big business in order to get the New Deal legislation passed, which set out to help everybody in the whole country, and parts of it did. FDR was the anti-Cheney.

(What caused the Great Depression was an imbalance between the price of goods and the salaries of workers. The price of goods kept going up, and big businesses either paid less to their workers, or would never give them any significant raises. If people could find work, they would have to work long, long hours just to be able to pay for their families food.)

A sandwich at Subway costs more than the guy who makes it gets paid in an hour. Look familiar? It scares me to see Social Darwinists running the country.

You can work all day stocking shelves and get $30. If you get a couple pizzas and a bottle of coke delivered to the house for dinner, you just spent it all.

A membership at FloridaKittens.com is like 2/3 of a days pay. What the fuck! LOL

 

Hmmm, this got interesting in a hurry. Now we're on FDR.

I'll toss in, although this will probably stick me back in the dog house.

(oh and before I begin, did you mean social darwinist as a bad thing?)

Evidentiary support for the idea that FDR's new deal helped end or even shorten or releive the crises of the Great Depression is fairly slim. Slightly less kind historians have even gone so far as to suggest that the quasi-socialist redistributive programs that FDR created to assuage the Depression actually interrupted the natural function of the American markets so thoroughly that it extended the Depression longer than it would have lasted on its own.

Regardless of your opinion on the new deal, however, I would strongly suspect there is little argument over two things: A) The economy's primary salvation was the eruption in war production thanks to WWII and B) FDR's greatest legacy is that of a war time, not economic, Presidency.

 

Wow Kory, you really bring up some good points and some disturbing similarities. Do you think that with the similarities (cost of a day's work vs. cost of living) that you are talking about, we are heading for another depression? Or are you saying that we are creating a society of have's and have nots?

I saw the book, and actually, I think Brooke is reading it in a pic, am I wrong? BTW...it's hawt that you all are intelectual...damn hawt..

As for today's society, I think that there are many things wrong with it. This is a jaded statement, mind you. I think that society has put the emphasis in the wrong area. For example, we pay entertainers almost billions to entertain. However, we don't do enough for those workers who are the buts and bolts of society. Our civil servants get crap. A police officer makes roughly 65K a year....and that is putting his/her life on the line every day they go to work. I think that is disturbing. I could toss on more examples, but I think you know what I am talking about.

I also look at some of the new policies that are in the making. Please don't get me wrong here, but we are putting billions into the military. That's good, but I think that it is in the wrong area of the military. According to local newspapers the Army, Marines, and Navy are not getting the enlistment that they need to keep the number high enough. I think that before we concentrate on our war, or any other war, we should build up our numbers. Because of the lackluster recruiting numbers, there has been mumbling of reinstating the draft. Good idea? My oppinion is no. You said earlier Kory that the Marines are a special breed (something similar to that) and you can't just convert Joe Special into a lean-mean killin machine. Are we taking away from the old people? To be honest, I don't know that policy too much. S.S. affects very little for teachers (we don't get it for teachers in CO). Is our government doing what is best for our nation, or what's best for themselves?

Does our society have major problems? You betcha we do. Is this time period going to get special scrutiny when I am 25 years into teaching? I hope so. But, if you look at how history works, every 25 years or so, there is a major issue that pops up. I took a class a long time ago about War and Peace. Not the book, but a political look into war and how to achieve peace. This course echoed that idea, but it was sooner, 19 years I think.

Going backwards we have now, then Nam/Watergate/JFK, then is WWII, WWI/Depression era, Expansionism (gold rush and Indian executions/round ups), the French, the Brittish, and forming our own country. Now my times are a bit off (not exactly 25 years), but this shows us how we have had a horrible time in History, followed by good times and back to the bad. Not to quote Austin Powers or anything, but "It's a vicious cycle."

 

You lawyers-in training always present great information! I think that, however, if I was to teach this way to middle schoolers, they would be lost!

 

^^^ Interesting way of putting it Shoob, but I'd disagree with your assessment that history goes through major up and down cycles.

Judiciously and objecively looked at, the most glaring fact about human history is that it has, without significant interruption of remission, been steadily improving, sometimes by leaps and bounds, while at other times only gradually, yet inexorably moving towards more health, wealth, and freedom across the board.

Even during supossedly "dark" periods of human history (the crusades, the dark ages, the rape of the new world, WWII) massive improvements in science, technology, medicine, and even diplomacy and social causes were brought about. It's not to say that nothing bad ever happens, certainly the extermination of Europe's Jewish population stands as the single greatest atrocity in human times... but this is only a limited part of the story. That so many gave so selflessly, courageously, and successfully to thwart such evil is, itself, a great testament to the overall postiveness of that time.

The simple fact remains-- there are no good old days. There has never been a lost golden age. Today we have more variety, entertainment, pleasure, free time, choice, freedom, money, and social good in our lives than our parents or our grandparents or our great grandparents could have dreamed.

Human life only continues to get better on earth, our lives are more and more blessed every generation. That it is not perfect is not an indictment of how good it continues to be. All that changes is man's perception of his age while he is experiencing it... but regardless of that perception, in the end history and posterity will prove and remember that the human condition continued to get better all the time.

 

hey i have to run off for an hour to have a meeting... nobody go all nuts in this thread till i get back k? i dont want to miss all the champange room

 

Ok, RBA I need to change the way I say something. While society gets better, there are still major flaws that can be seen. Society does get better, but how will our society, in 25 years, view us? That's what I meant to say. However, in the early times, ancient Greece and Rome, a major war did occur nearly every 20 years. That was my comparrison.

Don't get me wrong...I think that we are having major problems....but i also think that we are improving too!

 

Hey man, have fun at your meeting....I'm gonna clean the house and then interview....no more philisophical crap until I'm back...like 2 pm Mountain Standard time!

 

WWII kick-started the economy and bailed us out of the Great Depression because suddenly the lower class had money again. The rich never stopped being rich.

The quasi-socialist redistributive programs of the New Deal didn't help alleviate the suffering of the average American? Didn't you ever see Seabiscuit? Or was the narration in that movie just an example of liberal Hollywood trying to push it's agenda.

The Great Depression was just part of the natural flow of the market economy? It was caused by the exploitation of the average American laborer... by GREED... by the wealthy trying to push their profits higher and cut down their expenses.

There doesn't have to be a cycle in our economy that includes disaster. The problem is, there is enormous profit to be made in the drive to disaster for just few untouchably wealthy individuals. When the economy balances out again from some of the wealth being redistributed, the wealthy have already enjoyed their prosperity. And they're still rich.

I'm talking about the top 1 percent. The ones who really push the shells around here.

There has never been a time in the HISTORY of mankind when there was a greater disparity between the wealthiest one percent and the average man or woman. Not even during the time of the Pharoes. Did you know that?

The GOP, who look out for the interests of the wealthy and powerful, are all for cutting regulations, shrinking government, getting rid of any federal oversight. Of course they are. And of course that is a bad idea. You can't go on vacation for a week and leave your dog with a weeks worth of food piled in the corner. He'll eat it all in the first day, and starve himself the next day, and the next day, and the next day. I guess that's the natural ebb and flow of the dog alone in the house, huh?

You leave big business unchecked, the wealth gets stockpiled in the hands of the few, and the masses start facing a crisis. Then it takes a grotesque miracle, like a World War, or some brainstorming and gutsy legislation, like FDRs, to get things on the path to recovery.


And btw... better entertainment is not a sign of better prosperity, RBA.

Just because a Playstation 3 is going to be fucking great, doesn't mean minimum wage workers are getting a fair shake in this economy. The improvements in "FUN" don't justify a $200 paycheck becoming worth less and less. Besides, didn't you read Brave New World in high school? Where the working masses are sedated with Soma, so that they are happy with their bad jobs, and routine lives?

Keep the minimum wage at $5 for the next ten years... that sounds good. As long as the average worker has Grand Theft Auto IV in his house, he'll be happy as a clam. Forward progress!