DEBATE What are your thoughts on Celebrities Defending Islam?

I know this is a sensitive topic but I was just curious on phun community's opinion on the matter.

 

It is no different than Catholicism or Judaism.

 

Inshallah

 

yeah but catholics and Jews don't blow up people in the name of their God, do they?

 

Like any religion, there are both good and bad practitioners. Unfortunately, the bad get noticed more often than the good. Defending a religion itself is noble as a general thing, but defending those who choose to follow a narrow, intolerant version of that religion is narrow-minded, non-inclusive and pretty much misses the entire concept of the faith.

So I would have to say that it depends on precisely what the celeb (or my neighbour, for that matter) is defending.

 

Beating a dead horse here: "Not ALL Islamics blow themselves up". Can't remember the stats, but the Islamic world outnumbers Christians & Jews significantly. If they were all bad, I'm sure this thread would not be taking place.

 

I don't have a problem with anyone defending any religion but I do have a problem with hypocrisy. One of the many hypocrisies of the libs (this includes celebs, of course) is the staunch defending of Islam whilst crying and stomping their feet for separation of church of state. Catholics are chastised and generalized as tolerating child molestation, yet libs say you can't generalize those that practice Islam. Just be consistent in your stances, but that's a tall task for liberals.

 

I've experienced the hell of so called 'christians' twisting the bible to suit their own needs and desires... watched families (my own included) torn apart because of sick old men craving power. people died, people were abused, families destroyed and loving, sensible people turned into bigoted, angry radicals.

Islam is no different to Catholcism or Christianity or Judaism or any other religion.

 

lol, not anymore. Read the Old Testament sometime though, see how many people were killed in the name of Jehovah. Or read up about the Inquisition and see how Christians came up with many ways to torture and kill people who didn't believe in their god. Now they both have much more discrete ways of killing people but it's the same thing.
The Muslims are just trying to catch up.
And to answer your question, celebrities are people, they can say whatever they want. If I personally don't like what they have to say, I don't listen to it.

 

Did you never hear about that little bit of history called the crusades? Maybe the spanish inquisition? There have been millions of deaths directly caused by the catholic church and it's leaders.

 

The war on terror,colonialism and the crusades.

 

Your post doesn't make a lick of sense. You are arguing about two different things.

 

From the Middle Ages through to the early 20th Century, wherever European (and therefore mostly Catholic) explorers went, the Church of Rome was sure to be closely behind, following its Holy Mission to convert the godless so that they may find their way into heaven, which according to Rome was available only to "good" Christians of a certain faith.

Countless millions (literally) over the centuries were thus forced into Christianity. Those who refused were indeed terrorized, punished and killed for their beliefs. Entire families and villages were wiped out for refusing to obey the "one true God" . The Church declared those who refused to convert were lesser humans, heathens, and therefore they could be treated as such with no worry about sanctions from Rome for the practice

Sadly, these practices did not end with the Renaissance. In the Orient, Portuguese and French monks became near-rulers of vast areas of Japan, Korea, and China, treating the locals as lesser than themselves simply because of the different beliefs, while in North America, the practice of forced separation of children from their families continued (with government sanction in Canada) until the early 1960's.

All it takes -even today- is an overwhelming belief that yours is the right way, the only way to heaven, that it is your sacred duty to ensure that you bring along as many other true believers with you when you go, and you have the basis for what amounts to genocide- regardless of religion.

Organized religion- it's a dirty business when done wrong. Sadly, it's done wrong far too often.

 

Nope, not two different things, bub. I'd say read it again, but it's obvious you have a bias and don't want to think logically.

 

Faith is good... man just fucks it up...

 

There it is -- you're a SJW. The Crusades were a response to Islam, bub.

 

Well, in theory they were....the reality is a bit more...nuanced.

 

I don't have a problem with religion or faith.its people that annoy me and twist words. I'm black and most people in my family are super religious. One of my cousins is gay and people in my family say "gays need to be fixed"and other crap like that. People can support what they believe in I just don't like it when people try to force religion down your throat.