Erin Andrews settlement rant

No one fucking cares.

 

^^^Another positive comment from TLake^^^^ :1519:

 

I got to confess, until the video surfaced, I had no idea who she was. The idea of a pervert filming someone in a situation thought to be private is a serious violation of that persons rights. To award such a staggering sum will help deter others with similar ideas. In my opinion, Erin won the lottery. She absolutely hit the jackpot! The gravity of the crime in today's high tech era is almost laughable. Good for her. I hope she spends the money wisely!

 

Except it's not that much money, and given her success prior to this event, she doesn't really need any additional money. They estimate she *might* end up with $6 million after all is said and done.

 

Yep. 100% this, the vitriol women receive on the internet goes beyond anything that could be considered 'friendly' objectification or dissent to their persona to something too gross to comprehend. It's telling to way some men react to women taking issue with entitled male behavior.

 

I saw the video, and I think she deserves a Peephole`s Choice Award for her performance.

 

Okay, my post is a contradiction. I admit it. I objectify any attractive woman I see sexually on a daily basis. I will continue to do so for a long time. While I respect women in general and individually, I don't care if they don't like me looking at them like sex objects. I enjoy porn that celebrates invasions of women's privacy, nude selfies, hidden cams, etc. All that taken into account; if someone invades your privacy or theirs or enables it through their actions or negligent inactions, you deserve to go after them and sue the ever loving shit out of them for everything they have to take. Because you have a right to privacy in a room you have rented for a private purpose which is what she did. Erin Andrews did not rent a bed in a common room with a hundred other people. She rented a PRIVATE room and had every expectation that it would remain so. You do too every time you rent a hotel room. If you didn't you'd leave the door open when you change clothes or take a shower or have sex.

It goes against what I like to support her side, but her side is right, the porn I like is in the wrong.

 

So the compensation should be directly proportional to the victim's attractiveness? Complete and utter horse hockey.

 

not a lawyer--paralegal

but... sometimes i know from my firm these settlements are way bigger than damages with hotel cases (other things like bedbugs and contaminated sheets have had millions and millions) with the idea being that the hotels are so large and have so much cash this is the only way to really have it sink in that "fuck up and you WILL get nailed".

that i would guess had something to do with it.

 

$55M is too much. Absent physical harm, cases like this normally settle in the high six to low seven figures. Andrews is higher profile, her video has been viewed far more times than is typical for this type of case, so higher into the seven figure range would be appropriate (and is what she'll likely end up getting).

 

It amuses me that some of you think that a notion or opinion can be justified or discounted based on the fact that phun is a "porn forum," especially in a discussion such as this that has nothing to do with pornography, in a celebrity discussion sub-forum that has nothing to do with porn.

I suspect if Erin was your sister or daughter or spouse or friend, those of you who think she benefited by the personal violation of her privacy would be singing a different tune, and likely be riding shotgun on the litigation bandwagon. Celebrity is no excuse to find certain types of errant behavior permissible under any circumstances. Life ain't a Porky's movie.

BTW, voyeur videos of unsuspecting subjects in compromised situations are considered banned content on phun and are summarily trashed whenever we come across them. This may be a "porn forum" but that doesn't mean we don't have standards of common decency.

 

Wait, you mean that being naked underneath your clothes doesn't = consent? Man, this stuff is so confusing. Good thing I don't ever interact with women in real life...

 

With all due respect, why is it OK here then to use image hosts that hijack my phone and take me to sites such as "Punish Tube", "18 and Abused", and other sites that torture teens and depict rape, etc?

 

Report the ads to the imagehosts, we have no control over that content. I myself never see any such ads on my laptop, mainly due to AdBlock, but even with AdBlock disabled. And I've yet to see an ad like that when opening images on my phone. I can only assume it's true since so many people whine about it, but I have to wonder what's wrong with people's phone setups if that's the case.

 

Or just a human being. Or yourself if you lack basic empathy. Imagine your own private Buffalo Bill dances being broadcast online to people like us.

 

Erin Andrews' lawsuit took place in Tennessee - the state where the peephole vid was filmed. In all of 2015, the total payout of all civil damages (ie, people suing someone) in the entire state was just about $50 million - the average being about $400,000 per case. That includes cases of wrongful death like a worker being killed on a job site because of unsafe conditions or a patient dying because a doctor was overworked and prescribed the wrong medication.

The fact that Erin Andrews sued for $75 million rubbed me the wrong way right from the start. That she was awarded $55 million just pissed me off. Was she humiliated? Sure. Does she have nightmares about it still? Probably. But it was a grainy over exposed shit-quality vid of her walking around naked. She's still alive - her family can still hug her, talk to her, have her in their lives. She can still get married, have children, continue her successful career...all things not available to others that sued on behalf of someone that was killed due to negligence, malpractice, etc.

Erin Andrews deserved some money for what happened to her. The amount she was awarded though is sickening.

 

Not a lawyer but that's likely because a precedent has already been set for wrongful death payouts in Tennessee, the judge was probably using this to send a message of the type of act, facilitating and distributing privacy invasive material over the internet. As far as asking for that amount, Andrews lawyers would have been aiming high to get close to what they want.

 

So Erin's dad will say this video did not boost his kid's career? He's an outright liar
The relationship of Erin to anybody and the after effect of the video are totally unrelated in nature.
He can say he doesn't approve of the video but he can't question its effect.

 

Given that she was already #1 in the female sports broadcasting world, yeah, pretty much exactly he and anyone who isn't a rapey fuck-bag can say that.

You and others are also mis-attributing what this video was - it's different than a 'leaked' sex tape or even the phone leak type things, where, by getting some insight into the person's sexuality, one could argue better that they get a boost based on 'oh, wow, we didn't know she was that into crazy sex stuff, which now makes me want to see her movies more,' or whatever (not saying it's right, but I do admit that sort of boost exists and happens). Anyways, that is not at all what is happening here. Nobody saw this video and thought, ooh, I want to watch more sports now.

Also, consider the fact that her job involves interacting with real people, as opposed to acting on screen and otherwise being sheltered, like actresses and models (and I guess male baseball players), and where those real people are often large groups of young men, whose behavior is just slightly better than an internet forum.

I do hear the people saying 'what about all the other civil awards for seemingly way worse crimes that were much smaller amounts of money.' I understand that frustration, but that's not Erin's fault. It's a function of who did the wronging (a massive hotel company), and also the fact that this isn't over yet, so the $27 million will be watered way down before the end. Anyways, with respect to this, your frustration should be directed at the paltry awards in the other cases, not at this one.

Imagine if every single day, 10 different people posted a vidcap to your social media page of you jerking off, because someone hacked your webcam 10 years ago. Then imagine that the reason they were able to hack your webcam was because their friend who works at the internet provider gave them a workaround to get directly into your home network.

Or imagine if the iphone leaks were determined to be caused because an Apple employee gave their friend the key for how to break into someone's account, rather than the simple password resetting that it was. In that case, $55 Million would probably be just one side's legal fees, and the awards would be in the billions.