Ban Sharingmatrix-Yes or No-Vote Here!!!

I'm going to paraphrase a famous quote from the Supreme Court on obscenity, in which it was said (perhaps not verbatim but in this spirit)....
"I can't give you a definition of obscenity, but I know it when I see it".

In the case of what has happened here at Phun in the time since HF and (to a MUCH greater degree) SM have been approved as hosts...
"I can't tell you exactly what worthless, useless and generally shitty posts are, but I know 'em when I see 'em"... and I and a HUGE majority of Phunners (especially the longtime members) are seeing a LOT of horrible crap being posted here to a degree that it is beginning to affect the overall quality and feel of Phun as a whole. You can believe what you will but I hate to see a place which I've come to see as an online home be taken down by something like this and I fear if something isn't done the camaraderie and spirit of Phun will be gone and it will end up a wasteland like so many other forums and boards have in the past. :2cent:


Also, in response to the argument that it's not the fault of the 'new' hosts being added, let me just ask... Is it a coincidence then that these problems (spamming, crap posts and a deluge of new members and mostly inactive older members who contribute nothing but links which they get paid for) has occurred just since the advent of the new hosts?!?

 

i prety much agree with him..
it is not a matter of the host it more of the posters using that host........either u ban sharingmatrix or keep that won't have any effect people will switch to hotfile simply ..........
and as far as i can see there are no, non paying host out there except i think mediafire which is already allowed and no body uses it ......and why nobody uses it NO INCENTIVE whatsoever.......and by the way megaupload also pays but there 100 mb file restriction sucks coz file size has gone up ever since HD has come and one can no longer keep account active by simpy uploading
Atleast RS gave u points which they no longer do ........

The best solution in my view is the way Planetsuzy has implemented it with required host system.....
Following Quote is from there rules section

You can change it and make it fit as per phun's requirements.
Banning or allowing another host will not do anything ,,people will just move on to next best thing...

To mods -- if i have broken any rules from posting above comments plz remove the post ..without any warning plz

 

As a semi-normal downloader and uploader, I have major concerns with the reliability and quality of Sharingmatrix right now. Now, Hotfile also had it's share of problems when it first started up but they got their act together quite quickly - Sharingmatrix has not.

Indeed, I'm one of those "every-whiny-bodies" that you're talking about... you can even liken me to that "old man hollering at the kids to get off his damn lawn", while you're at it.

As for when the porn quality was better at Phun? Coincidentally, before Hotfile and Sharingmatrix was allowed, which was 6/27/2010. HO, would you look at that... it was also coincidentally before you joined up this month!

But let's not get into a juvenile tit-for-tat, let's look at real numbers that point at a 360% increase in new threads posted in the Sexy Videos section since HF and SM were added. Since you've not been a member long enough, that may seem normal to you; I've been here for a bit over a year and I can tell you both biasedly and unbiasedly that the overall quality has not come close to the 360% increase in threads - I would even say there's a decrease in quality.

Not true Trente - I don't currently have a premium account with Hotfile, and for that matter I don't have a premium account with any filehost service except for Rapidshare (which I got through my downloads - big purveyor of not paying for p0rn.).

The reason for adding both Sharingmatrix and Hotfile is to replace Rapidshare as a viable free filehost in the future... Phun will likely need to add at least one new filehost if Rapidshare will no longer have practical free filehosting service.

I have to half-heartedly agree - Phun has opened up the floodgates and unless Phun moves to a private board with memberships by invitation-only, while I applaud of banning of Sharingmatrix, that will likely have those same wack-uploaders moving to Hotfile for their cash incentives though they will find it much harder to get the incentives that SM boasts.
I have used Mediafire in the past and it's actually quite good especially for free users. My problem with mediafire in the past is that files last about a week at most before they're gone and as only a semi-regular uploader now, I really don't feel like re-uploading to Mediafire every week.

I guess my overall points for banning Sharingmatrix are two-fold: (1) I feel it's not reliable enough from both an uploading and downloading standard to the other filehosts (2) it's the choice filehost service for the wack-posting madness going on.

Now, if Sharingmatrix were banned, would it get rid of all of wack-posting going on? I don't think it would, no... but I'm willing to bet it would turn off a lot of those cash-whores (as HF's incentives are harder to attain than SM's) and from that, the posting madness would see a reasonable decrease at Phun. A Sharingmatrix ban combined with a series of new posting guidelines and possibly a new forum format would dramatically decrease the wack-posting content going on. Heck, I would not be opposed to a ban on both Sharingmatrix and Hotfile and possibly looking at other filehosting services (i.e. Depositfiles, Oron, Filefactory, etc.,) before deciding on the final new set of official Phun filehosting services.

 

i cant download from SM anything, and if I am luck the time is like 5h!!! Never wait so long...

 

sm sux... hit it with the banhammer

 

yep, which makes me a classic ca$hwhore

should it? Well, if we determined that the quality is based on personal perception maybe there should be a request subforum/thread somewhere. The rest can be easily regulated by rules and mods respectively. As for complaints about downloading issues, well, there are, as with any other host, it's just the ones who download without problems don't cry about it. In general I see you point and even agree with you, but I believe that with proper moderation content's quality issue can be solved. Banning entire host seems like using a guillotine to get rid of dandruff to me.

 

I typically avoid SM clips, most of the time I get the 10 minute wait crap- and then a slow download if and when the link does work.

If the thread titles had to have the filehost in the them I'd be much happier.

 

9 spammers so far, it appears.

Well the ones without problems are hardly going to "cry" about problems they don't have, are they?
I've seen people complain that they can't get a file from RS because it is too big to DL without an account, but I've never seen someone complain about not being able to DL a file from Rapidshare because their timer reset itself endlessly. This is what happens every single time I try to DL anything from sharing matrix, and I am definitely nowhere near alone in having that issue.
I'd say that not being able to DL ANYTHING AT ALL from a filehost that appears to have infested nearly every single thread in this forum is a rather big cause to complain.

Or in this case, to get rid of a pathetically bad filehost that a lot of downloaders can't get a damn thing from.
sharingmatrix is utter shit for pretty much everyone except cashwhores and spammers. Phun was FAR better off without it.
My vote goes to banning it.

 

I voted for the ban because I'm seeing a lot of SM posts that are crappy and duplicates because apparently a large majority of people who use SM don't search before they post. After reading your comment, I think you're right and I wish I could take back my vote. It's a bigger issue, sharingmatrix doesn't ruin forums, people ruin forums. I think we need a more strict set of rules in place and maybe a little more policing of the rules that are already in place in order to clean up the mess that is the sexyvideos forum.

 

maybe a limit to so many posts in sexy videos per day

 

Well if Sharing Matrix works for you, your one of the few, and more than likely you had to do some tweaking to your browser. It never worked for me, and I refuse to tweak my browser that works fine with all other host. If SM want to be allowed on a forum of Phun standards, they should only be allowed after they fix the system on their end. Allowing downloaders to be able to download without the constant count down that restarts every ten minutes without allowing you to download a single thing. I understand that you mods want to adjust the rules and maybe institute some limits and guide lines to cut back on the spamming and crap post(which you say is all subjective). However, either you guys are in denial, or you just dont bother to read the massive amount of response that have flooded this forum about Sharing Matrix. My only suggestion is, if you guys continue to ignore the massive amounts of complaints about this host, and decide to let them stay on as approved. Please at least contact SM and notify them of the problem that the downloaders are having. Maybe this will bring them up to standard with other host. Just dont put your head in the sand, and say SM matrix works fine for me, and its no more problem than a control issue. I will close by saying Phun has been the best, and most respected forum on the net. It has been an enjoyable place, with a great staff of moderators that have kept things humming along smoothly. But if you guys refuse to listen at the problems that people are vigorously explaining in post after post about the low performance of Sharing Matrix, maybe the Phun is coming to an END!

 

Well said!! THANKS

 

Well, I was mainly trying to note that you've just joined up, so you didn't know how the "good old days of Phun" were before Sharingmatrix and Hotfile were added and the classic ca$hwhores types invaded Phun. But I also supposed it takes one to know one.

Thanks aaa800, it's nice to have a civil discussion online without having to devolve to namecalling and the eventual "Ur a Dumb n00b" comments. And I agree that the mods at Phun have always done a great service in keeping Phun well-maintained so they probably will make the right decisions soon in keeping this a Phun place.

Lastly, I think your analogy is a bit exaggerated and extreme. If anything, Phun is a great open bar that serves p0rn for its alcohol and like all great bars, patrons here deserve good bartending service (i.e. filehosts) for their demand. When one of those bartenders (SharingMatrix) is unreliable in their service and is constantly delivering undesirable alcohol for consumption... well that bartender deserves to get canned.

 

Voted
4~ Bye~Bye~

 

The Bar analogy is an excellent one for Phun, Mokk.... Excellent post on the topic.

 

I have a job...so I don't need to spam everyone else using SM. Let's hurry up and get rid of that piece o' crap!

 

It's been a bitch to find new vids

 

Yesterday on sharingmatrix I kept getting this notice saying "free users can only download 1 file at a time". The bitch of it was...I wasn't downloading anything.

I am the only one on my IP, it's a static IP and I downloaded a file from them but it had finished. It took over 10 hours for that damn notice to go away, and no matter of cookie/cache clearing or refreshing or different links or anything would clear it. Finally I got the 10:00 countdown again.

Today I've been able to download several files in a row without that notice showing up again waiting the requisite 10 minutes every time. My problem now is the servers are slow and keep timing out, although it seems you can go back and get a fresh link to re-download without waiting an additional 10 minutes so that's nice.

Overall though, my experience hasn't been pleasant.

onan

 

I would say; If a user only uses a particular host to earn money, that host should be banned.
And I think that 90% (probably more) of the SM and HF uploaders only use those hosts to earn money. Not because they want to share...

 

I don't get why this is taking so long to ban. Its obvious that nobody wants it!!!